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		OLGR QUESTIONS ON KIDS SAFE-AT-SPORT CDSE FUNDING

16:48 Wed 28 Feb 2007						REF: ZCPACFC2
							Y/R: E 14:57 2007/02/27 

TO:	Stephen HOWARD		cc	"Kids Safe-at-Sport" Project Team 
	Secretary			OIC Management Committee 
	NSW OFFICE OF			eConsultants 
 	LIQUOR, GAMING & RACING 

Dear Stephen - thank you again for a rapid response and the five questions posed.  
This is our reply to your response 

A	Case for consideration perhaps as Category 1 as well as Category 2 
B	Answers to 5 questions
C	Next Steps

A	CASE CATEGORY 1 AS WELL AS CATEGORY 2 IN CDSE

> project would not come within Category 1 of the CDSE Guidelines as  
> the project is not exclusively directed to low income and disadvantaged  
> people , but may come within category 2 of the CDSE Guidelines. 

We believe that there may be case for consideration as a Category 1 
application in that the Sports areas involved with "low income and 
disadvantaged people" may obtain the most benefit from sponsorship  
and operation of the "Kids Safe-at-Sport" application. 

In my own experiences with a Junior Sports Club that was receiving  
over $ 186,000 per annum in Membership Fees and $ 60,000 in  
Junior Sponsorship, the problem was that the Management Committee  
did not want to know about the Child Protection issue irrespective of  
the Legislation. 

The Child Protection issue has been on the Australian Sports Commission 
website for three years. 

The Councils ran programs 3 years ago about Sporting Clubs  
Mandatory requirements under the Child Protection Legislation 

However the Football Club Management Committee voted against  
it because of  the problems of organising and maintaining a Child  
Protection Policy and Complaints process 

Hence this is why this initiative has been instigated by Parents 
independent of any sporting affiliations 

B	ANSWERS TO FIVE QUESTIONS 

The answers to your questions need to considered in the light of 

a	the transition to the Information Economy as explained by 
	two Chief General Managers from the National Office of the 
 	Information Economy [NOIE] at two OIC seminars in 2001
 
b	the contract awarded to OIC members by the Department of  
	Employment, Workplace Relations and Small Business [DEWRSB]. 

	This contract was for OIC Members to develop a series of On-line 
	Questionnaires for 273 NSW Councils about  "On-line Delivery  
	Services by Local Government" 

c	The Electronic Transactions Acts passed by each State Government 

The five questions are: 

1	Why different/better than Australian Sports Commission website ?
 
2	Will people pay for accessing the website ?
 
3	How will website be maintained and people paid to maintain ?
 
4	How is project Self-funding ?
 
5	Donating Clubs receiving benefit from donation ?
 

> 1. how will the project's website be different/better than the Australian  
> Sports Commission ?; 

The proposed project web-site will be very different to the Australian 
Sports Commission in a number of ways including: 

a	Difference between Central Repository and Local Repository
b	Navigation Central sites v Local Sites 
c 	Cost and complexity Central System software v Local System  
d	Part of Local Team Information System	
e	System designed to encourage weekly visits by parents/children
f	Child Protection process enhancement of current System

a	Difference between Central Repository and Local Repository 

	The Australian Sports Commission is a Central Website whereas  
	the "Kids Safe-at-Sport" is a local web application that operates
	on the Sports Club's local PC.

	If the Sports Club does not have a PC there will be access to the 
	Local Peak Body so that parents can check if the Sports Club has
	complied with collecting the Child Protection Forms from Team 
	Managers and Coaches either from the Library or Home PCs 
 
b	Navigation Central sites v Local Sites 

	One of the problems for Central Sites like the Australian Sports 
	Commission [ASC] is that the parents would rarely visit the
	web-site.
 
	It is a daunting mission to try and navigate through the ASC 
 	website and the computer response to complete the Child 
	Complaint forms may be unacceptable
 
c 	Cost and complexity Central System software v Local System  

	In addition the cost and complexity of software for a Complaint 
	Registration process on a central site would make the project  
	untenable
 
d	Part of Local Team Information System	 

	It will be part of a local system providing local maps, venues,  
	team histories as well as a record of the coaches and managers  
	who have completed the CPD forms as part of the information 
	about the team management 

	We have visited a number of Local Junior Sports Clubs 
	web sites and none of them provided Local Junior team  
	information  

e	System designed to encourage weekly visits by parents/children	 

	The system has been designed to encourage players/parents to  
	visit the site each week and become familiar with navigating the  
	site while checking results, team BBQ rosters and team net rosters 
	and match reports 

f	Child Protection process enhancement of current System 

	The Child Protection Complaint Process is an enhancement  
	Of a current system 

	The system has been designed to include incident forms as 
	well as Child Protection Complaints that would automatically be  
	routed through to the appropriate channels eg in Football a copy 
	would go the Club, the Local Peak Body, the State Peak Body  
	and the Australian Sports Commission 

> 2. will people pay for accessing the website ?; 
>
  
There will not be a charge for accessing the information on the 
Website. 

The System has to be designed so that there is a record of who  
wants to access certain information and if they have the appropriate  
authority to access that information  

ie someone who wants to check a Child home address or School 
will require an access code.   

However for emergencies there will be a 24-hr mobile call centre  
number  

> 3. how will the website be maintained / will people be paid to maintain  
> it/who will pay those costs?; 
>
A	How will website be maintained 
B	How will people be paid to maintain it - from Sponsorship
C	Who will pay those costs - Local Business Sponsors

A	HOW WILL WEB-SITE BE MAINTAINED 

There are several aspects to consider here. 

a	The Framework 
b	Team Sponsorship
c	The Weekly Operation 

a	Framework

One of the objectives of this project is to provide a way for 
Junior Sports Clubs to receive sponsorship that more than covers 
the cost of equipment and license fees 

There is an annual license fee to the sports clubs for a web application 
that will generate more than sufficient sponsorship fees for Junior  
Sports Clubs to cover the cost of the license fees 

If the Junior Sports Clubs are unable to attract sufficient Sponsors for  
the Web-pages after 12 months to cover the cost of the License fees  
then we will review the site  

The "Kids Safe-at-Sport [KSAS]" project is an enhancement of an  
existing "Junior Sports Information System [JSIS]" 

JSIS was initially developed in 2005 to provide "A Leadership  
Development And Responsibility Practice" web site to improve the  
playing and social skills for an U7Team 

This Framework and set up includes local maps and Teams for the 
season and team Rosters for the Nets and BBQs 

The JSIS framework is licensed from the OIC/CZAG/JSIS Project team. 

There is a membership fee to Join the "Kids Safe-at-Sport" 
Network. 

This Network will provide a number of services to Junior Sports
Clubs including: 

1	how to apply the Child Protection Legislation
 
2	Co-ordinate the Child Incident Forms
 
3	provide on-line advice on the JSIS 
 
The membership fee to join the KSAS-AU Network is based on the
number of Junior Sides that a Club has and a fee per registered 
member per Sporting Club 

One of the benefits of membership of the KSAS-AU Network  
is the ability to license the Junior Sports Information  
System [JSIS] 

The current License fee is based on 

1	A set-up costs			$50.00 - $ 400.00 per year 
2	A fee per Registered member	$ 1.00 - $ 4.00 per member
3	A web-page fee			$ 1.00 per web/page per year 
4	A hits per page fee	    	    10 c per hit 

Currently very few of the Junior Sporting Clubs have On-line  
Registration Systems. 

The Player Parents have to complete paper Registration Forms. 

All the team allocation is carried out manually which is a very 
Time consuming process for the Age Co-ordinators 

The JSIS System has been designed so that all of this information 
is generated automatically when the Parents register On-line that 
their child will be playing that Junior Sport 

This registration can be either from a Home PC or from a Library 

b	Sponsorship of the Club Sites

Many Clubs have sponsorship officers to arrange Sponsorship 
for the Club. 

Hence the JSIS System provides a reason for the Sponsorship 
Officer to contact Local Businesses 

If they do not have a Sponsorship Officer the KSAS-AU Network  
will contact Local Companies to see if they are prepared to sponsor  
the Local Team 

There is a Sponsorship Registration Page so that the Sponsors 
Logo can be allocated to a Local Team web-site 

c	The Weekly Operation 

The weekly operation is for weekly game results and teams results 

The weekly operation of Club results and teams would 
be carried out by the Players and Players’ Parents 
 
B	HOW WILL PEOPLE BE PAID TO MAINTAIN IT

The Junior Sport Information System is designed so that the
whole system can be update locally for content and be
paid from Local Sponsorship of the Web sites

The KSAS-AU Network will co-ordinate the Sponsorship fees
and record sponsorship fees and work carried out to maintain
and update the content of the Local Sites

These Local Team Sponsors could be members of the Area
Sports Sponsorship Network and participate in any 
Electronic Dispute Resolution Committees

C	WHO WILL PAY FOR THOSE COSTS 

The payment for the maintenance and the Junior Team
Support will come from Local Sponsorship for the Junior 
Sports by Local Business

The Sponsorship could be by

1	Financial Contribution to Club
2	Benefits in Kind to the Club
3	Percentage of new business from Sports Club
4	Visits to Sponsors Web page

> 4. could you please explain the comment in your e-mail dated 23 February 
> 2007 that "The project has been designed as a self funding project to  
> assist Local Business to support local Junior Sports teams "  

As outlined above the project has been designed so that Junior 
Sports Club can receive website sponsorship from Local Small 
Business Enterprises as part of the Local Information Economy. 

If the Small Business does not have a web-site, we are developing 
A 10 week 1 hr on-line program to teach local school-leavers/unemployed 
people how to develop web-sites with back-end accounting processes 

These web-pages and back-end accounting processes will be 
validated by the OIC 

Centrelink is a member of the OIC. 

This project will be discussed with them as the 10 week 1 hr on-line  
program will include teaching the following IT Skills 

1	Web-page design
 
2	Word-processing 
 
3	Spreadsheet
 
4	Database
 
5	Understand the Australian eCommerce Standard AS4590
 
6	On-line presentation for Marketing/Sponsorship Strategies
 
7	E-mail Distribution 
 
> 5. in relation to the comment at the top of page 4 of the Mosman RSC  
> CDSE Funding Application -" If there was interest from other Councils for 
> a similar program for the parents in their Area and , there was sufficient  
> Local Business support to generate profits , then 10% of the profits  
> would be contributed to the Mosman RSC Local Sport support fund."  
> - there is  a concern that the donating club should not be receiving a  
> benefit as a result of its donation. 

Thank you for pointing that issue out about the CDSE Application 

That Statement is withdrawn as part of the Funding Application 

However the Economic Model that has been develop for OIC projects  
is to provide Project Sponsors with an Return on Investment [ROI] for  
any Sponsorship. 

The ROI options are 

1	 10%	after 12 months 
2	100%	after 36 months 
3	200%	after 60 months 

A donating Club like Mosman RSC could allocate the 10% to any  
Junior Sports Club perhaps offering Computer Equipment or further  
application development 

C	NEXT STEPS

Thank you again for your advice and rapid response to clarifying the 
CDSE Application. 

Please forward any further questions 

Regards 

Stephen GOULD 
Public Officer 
OPEN INTERCHANGE CONSORTIUM 

E	sggould@oic.org 
M:	0416-009-468 
W:	http://www.oic.org 

On 27 Feb 07, at 14:57, Howard, Stephen wrote: 

> Mr Gould  
>  
> Thank you for the additional information which has been considered  
> by the relevant Board Member as well as your original e-mail dated 23 
> February 2007. 
>  
> On the basis of all the information currently available, the Board Member 
> considers that the proposed donations  ($10,000 and $5,000) to the  
> project would not come within Category 1 of the CDSE Guidelines as  
> the project is not exclusively directed to low income and disadvantaged  
> people , but may come within category 2 of the CDSE Guidelines. 
>  
> The Board Member has requested the following additional information :- 
>  
> 1. how will the project's website be different/better than the Australian  
> Sports Commission ?; 
>  
> 2. will people pay for accessing the website ?; 
>  
> 3. how will the website be maintained / will people be paid to maintain  
> it/who will pay those costs?; 
>  
> 4. could you please explain the comment in your e-mail dated 23 February 
> 2007 that "The project has been designed as a self funding project to  
> assist Local Business to support local Junior Sports teams " ;and 
>  
> 5. in relation to the comment at the top of page 4 of the Mosman RSC  
> CDSE Funding Application -" If there was interest from other Councils for 
> a similar program for the parents in their Area and , there was sufficient  
> Local Business support to generate profits , then 10% of the profits  
> would be contributed to the Mosman RSC Local Sport support fund."  
> - there is  a concern that the donating club should not be receiving a  
> benefit as a result of its donation. 
>  
> Regards 
>  
>  
> Stephen Howard 
> Secretary 
> Liquor Administration Board  
>  
> -----Original Message----- 
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 2:22 AM 
> Subject: OLGR-CDSE,Child Protection and Council Sports Teams 
>  
>  
> 11:53 Mon 26 Feb 2007						REF:612DOEN1 
>  
> TO:	Stephen HOWARD	cc	"Kids Safe-at-Sport" Project Team 
> 	Secretary		OIC Management Committee 
> 	NSW OFFICE OF		eConsultants 
> 	LIQUOR, GAMING & RACING 
>  
> Dear Stephen  - Thank you for your speedy response to the inquiry for  
> Advice from OLGR on possible funding from CDSE for Child Protection and  
> Council Sports. 
>  
> The email provides 
>  
> A	Sports Clubs responsibilities on Aus Sport Commission 
> B	Contact with Local Council re Sports and CDSE 
> C	Mandatory Child Protection Reporting for Sports Clubs 
>  
> A	SPORTS CLUBS CHILD PROTECTION RESPONSIBILITIES 
>  
> Please find attached a copy of the web-page on the Australian Sports 
> Commission relating to the responsibilities of Junior Sports Clubs 
> on Child Protection issues. 
> Document  AS1CPDP1.doc 
>  
> The responsibilities for Junior Clubs include: 
>  
> 1	Ensuring coaches and managers have signed the documents 
>  
> 2	Advising parents that the documents have been signed and collected 
> 	and the proper procedure to register a complaint 
>  
> 3	Establishing a Complaints Procedures process for parents/children 
> 	for the Mandatory Register complaints on Child Abuse to the 
> 	Australian Sports Commission 
>  
> While many of the Junior clubs can deal with section 1 few can comply  
> with a Complaints Procedure process particularly one that is independent 
> of the Sports Club involved. 
>  
> This is why an independent Complaints body is required which is what 
> the "Kids Safe-in-Sport" project is proposing to provide for Junior 
> Sport in Australia. 
>  
> B	CONTACT WITH LOCAL COUNCIL RE CDSE 
>  
> Although the Registered Clubs that turnover more than $ 1,000,000 from 
> Poker Machine revenue are supposed to provide 1.5% revenue to  
> Community groups as part of the CDSE, it appears that many contributed 
> the revenue to the Local Council to distribute to Community Groups 
>  
> On Fri 23 Feb 2007 Claire and I had a meeting with the Local Council 
> Director of Community Development who stressed budgets were  
> stretched and we should seek support from the Local Clubs. 
>  
> We were provided with a pamphlet "A to Z Guide Sporting Clubs of 
> XXXX Council" - most Councils provide this leaflet at their libraries 
>  
> There were 17 Sports listed with 26 Clubs 
>  
> 14 of those clubs have an email address while 12 provided web addresses. 
>  
> This pamphlet has provided a base document for a uniform Child  
> Protection Reporting process as per attached spreadsheet which 
> is for Public Comment 
> Spreadsheet:  Cxxxsc71.xls 
>  
> C	CHILD PROTECTION PROCESS FOR JUNIOR SPORTS CLUBS 
>  
> An example of why an Independent Child Protection process is 
> my own experiences with a Junior Sports Club on the Northern Beaches. 
>  
> In 2005 it had 1,463 registered players where 390 were seniors and 
> 1,073 were juniors  
>  
> There were 115 teams in total with 23 Senior teams and 92 Junior 
> Teams  
>  
> In 2006 I was on the Management Committee as the under 8 Age  
> Co-ordinator. 
>  
> When I tried to explain that the Club had to comply with Mandatory 
> Legal requirements for Child Protection and establish a Complaint  
> Process it was ignored in the minutes by the Management Committee 
>  
> Hence the urgency to have a proper process in place as I am sure most 
> Junior Sports Clubs are "managed" by the Senior Team players 
>  
> An example is the process so that Parents can review if the Junior 
> Sports Club has at least collected the Child Protection Forms when 
> they are checking out the Training Nights 
> 
> Over the week-end the "Kids Save-at-Sport" Project Team developed a  
> spreadsheet for all the Sports teams in a Council Area. 
>  
> This is the start place for all clubs to record not only the Child Protection 
> documents but also to comply with the Mandatory Reporting Requirements 
> defined by the Child Protection Legislation 
>  
> NEXT STEPS 
>  
> As there may be other State Government departments interested in this 
> issue this email has been distributed for Public comment 
>  
> Any OLGR advice and direction on CDSE funding or other funding for  
> this important issue for many parents would be appreciated. 
>  
> Thank you 
>  
> Regards 
>  
>
>
> Stephen GOULD 
> Public Officer 
> OPEN INTERCHANGE CONSORTIUM 
> 14:18	M	2007/02/26	Syd	2065 
>  
> E:	sggould@oic.org 
> M:	0416-009-468 
>  
> On 23 Feb 07, at 17:16, Howard, Stephen wrote: 
>  
> > Mr Gould  
> >  
> >  Are you able to provide a copy of the Attachment A referred to at the  
> top of page 2 of the Mosman RSC CDSE Funding Application?  

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