07:20 Wed 02 Apr 2008 Recipient: 6123Ob11 REF:AECYD1D1 TO: Cr Denise WILTON cc NSW Ministers LG & Sport MAYOR Mosman Schools MOSMAN MUNICIPAL COUNCIL Ksas-Au contacts DRAFT RECORD COUNCIL MEETING TUE 01 APR 2008 Dear Madam Mayor and Councillors We rely on s706 NSW Local Government Act 1993 It was disappointing to note that again KSAS-2088 was not allowed to ask a question at question time. When I did speak about "GM/12 Minutes SHOROC Special Meeting 19 Mar 2008" and "EP/39 Environment Community Group Minutes" the suggestions and proposals on behalf of Mosman Parents and Ratepayers were ignored hence this draft record has been prepared. However we note that the Council did find the time to debate "GM/9 Lobbying of Councillors" and "GM/10 Electoral Funding Disclosure" for 90 minutes. A Who I represent B GM/12 - SHOROC Minutes C EP/39 - EAG Minutes A WHO I REPRESENT As pointed out before, although living in Neutral Bay, I represent the interests of the Sponsors, Parents and Ratepayers involved with KSAS-2088 hence the address of 95 Muston Street MOSMAN B GM/12 - SHOROC MINUTES Again it was very disappointing to record in these days of apparent transparent and accountable Government that the SHOROC minutes are not placed on the Mosman Council website. This is a very important issue because the Administrator of the Warringah Council is using the SHOROC Umbrella to unlawfully impose expensive Electronic operation processes on Mosman Council, its Parents and Ratepayers. Issues of great concern for Mosman Ratepayers, because according to the SHOROC website - The Organisation, "SHOROC operates through a Board, made up of the four Mayors and four General Managers who meet at least quarterly. All member councils make an equal annual contribution to the operating costs of SHOROC and have equal voting rights" a Item 4.2 - SHOROC Incorporation Problems b Item 5.4 - Electronic Procurement c Item 5.5 - Sportground Management a Item 4.2 - SHOROC INCORPORATION PROBLEMS SHOROC as an Association has still not been incorporated after 2 years because as an Association a minimum of 5 members is required hence the decisions being published in the name of SHOROC as an Association are unlawful. "Further legal advice has been sought on this issue" so a way has been devised to overcome this insurmountable problem. The proposed solution is that several Mayors and several General Managers form the fifth member (those Mayors and those General Managers are not named !). This was proposed by Viv MAY General Manager Mosman Council and seconded by Henry WONG General Manager Manly Council. Please note that at the meeting on 19 Feb 2008 it was stated that Mosman Council is part of the Inner North Sub-Regional group for Affordable Housing, Employment and Regional Transport Strategy. Mosman Council is not part of the SHOROC Regional Transport Strategy b ITEM 5.4 PROCUREMENT "Warringah Council is now fully operational in its use of Tenderlink. Other Councils will also soon be fully operational in linking their sites to Tenderlink". I pointed out that we had submitted a report to the Mosman General Manager in Sep 2007 that includes: 1 Using Tenderlink requires Mosman Council to operate two tender systems namely Tenderlink and its own web-site 2 Tenderlink was designed in New Zealand and does not comply with the Australian Standard for Online Systems {AS4590}. 3 In 2004 Tenderlink was funded by Babcock and Brown Infrastructure Investments [BBII] The Investment banks are funding Council electronic initiatives because Councils have long been recognised as "easy prey" as few Councillors understand the difference between book-keeping, accounts and economics 4 Recently BBII was almost purchased as part of the "rumour-trage" game played by share traders (ref SMH 12 Mar 2008 "Raid as Watchdog sniffs ever closer" This was followed up on 29 Mar 2008 "Sordid Tale of Short-Selling Super" whereby there was yet another loophole in Australian Law). Hence Tenderlink could become owned by another "Investment Organisation" and IT fees could climb through the roof. Cr REID deflected any questions by stating that he was pleased that SHOROC had a Regional Transport Strategy "that would get the delivery trucks out of Mosman". Cr REID has forgotten that Mosman is now in the Inner North Subregion not SHOROC for its Regional Transport Strategy. c ITEM 5.5 SPORTSGROUND MANAGEMENT "A working group is being co-ordinated by Warringah Council to develop sports user agreements, service standards, costs of current levels of maintenance to assist is determining to what target of 15% cost recovery will apply, to review the implementation Plan and Allocation Guidelines and to develop charges and implementation proposals for schools. Warringah Council are conducting a household survey to assist in determining fees and charges". I said these are Parents concerns that Warringah Council, which has had an Administrator for the last 4 years, is determining the fees and charges to recover 15% costs back from the Schools and Parents while the other 85% cost is added to Ratepayers charges. The fees that are charged by Junior Sports Clubs are very high at the moment and likely to increase considerably due to Ground Remediation, new Watering Systems and Carbon Credit charges. An example is Balmoral Oval which is due for drainage upgrading with an estimated cost of $ 90,000 Most of the Junior Sports training grounds require floodlights which will have a charge for Carbon Credits and no-one knows how high Carbon will be traded on the Carbon market in future years C EP/39 - EAG MINUTES 10 MAR 2008 The Minutes report: C Resident members disagree with the minutes The proposed changes include: 1 Reverse existing format with members raising matters at meeting without notice 2 Seek input to group on Agenda prior to finalising Agenda 3 Provide Agenda and Powerpoint slides prior to Meeting 4 Circulate draft minutes before finalising 5 Have a web page for the group 6 Make community input a priority of meetings 7 Limit the number and length of presentations I asked to speak on this issue explain that the Commonwealth Bank and AIDC had funded OIC members in 1997 to develop Electronic Committee Information Management [ECIM]. ECIM was developed to enable Committee members to take it in turns to produce a Draft Record or Blog of the meeting within certain time constraints to a set format eg an electronic draft record within 72 hrs and electronic Blogs within a further 72 hrs. An example of how the Agenda can include the Powerpoint presentations prior to the meeting is the OIC Local Government Special Interest Group Meeting in Sep 2001 "The Government Online Strategy" A visit to Mosman Library to review the 124-page attachments for the 48-page Agenda revealed multiple meeting Minutes including: 1 SHOROC Management Committee - 11 pages to 3 Council Mayors, 4 Council General Managers and 4 others 2 Sydney Coastal Councils Group [SCCG] - 23 pages for 48 members at 20 different Councils/Entities 3 Five (5) Mosman Council Community Groups including the 27 members of the Environment Community Group [EAG] While providing the background to ECIM with the British Standards Institute [BSI] (produces 14,000,000 pages Minutes/annun) and the UK Institution of Electrical Engineers [IEE] (105,000 members, 253 Committees, 400 events/annum) and how it reduces the consumption of paper as part of the Sustainability issue, the Mayor called a halt to my submission. 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